Ross King - Videos And Transcript

In this weekly roundup, there’s Ross’ caption video, links to Chesney’s video on Ross’ chosen song, and one of the roughest transcripts you’ll ever read. 🤪

And if you missed Ross’ podcast episode click here.

Ross’ Quote: ‘’Just do your best. That’s all you can do.”

Ross’ Song: Daydream Believer

Caption Video:

Daydream Believer took four Monkees, so can only one Chesney Hawkes do it justice?

@chesneyhawkes@

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A Very Rough Transcript:

Chesney: That's another fine mess, you got me into.

Lynn: Settle down, settle down, guys. It's exciting, it's exciting. Hey listener, are you there? Have you got your cup of tea or your earbuds on? We're starting the show actually. Sorry, but that just, I got some sleep last night. So I'm a bit chatty.

Chesney: More than normal Lynn.

Lynn: Well, I dunno. is that even possible? Right? It's a little different this week listener.

I tell you why, not everybody gets to know this, but you'll get to know it because you are a listener. Neil is a bit poorly.

Chesney: He not very well. God bless him.

Lynn: Are you Neil? You're not very well. Are you?

Neil: Mmmm, mmm.

Chesney: You can

that's as far as we get, we get we'll get one grunt. Yeah. Okay.

Lynn: So this introduction's gonna be a little dodgy and also maybe there won't be much of Neil in this.

Anyway. We're not gonna give you the details of his illness, but safe to say. He's wearing a lot of different pants.

Neil: It's not falling enough yet.

Chesney: there's more than a grunt. That'll do. That'll do

Neil: the words I been managing on.

Lynn: All right, ladies and gentlemen listener, who could be a lady or a gentleman, if we are honest, welcome to this week's episode of Ferguson

Neil: Harrington.

Chesney: Hawkes

Lynn: I'm Lynn Ferguson.

He's

Neil: I'm me. I'm not here.

Chesney: And I'm Chesney Hawkes.

Lynn: uh, so there we go. This guess what? This episode's all about health. It's not Chesney. What's this episode all about Go tell. Be adorable.

Chesney: Well this episode, uh, we've got a fabulous guest on today. Who's actually friends with you and me, Lynn.

Lynn: I love him.

Yeah, I do. He is friends with both of us and also Mark. In fact, Mark was a little bit miffed he couldn't be involved in the podcast cuz he loves this guy so much.

Chesney: I know, I know. He's so wonderful. Isn't he? He's um, I've actually known this man for gosh, uh, 32 years now.

Lynn: Wow. Yeah, but you are only 34. Aren't you? Aren't ya 43?

Chesney: I'm only 28. What are you talking about?

Lynn: I'm like, how can you knew that when you knew him, when knew you were an embryo? No, I love him. And he's got, I think he's got a brilliant quote this week, which is, uh,

do you have,

Chesney: I do the quote is, uh, "Just do your best. That's all you can do". Ah, I know we have a few notes here.

Yeah. Um, well obviously it's an inspirational motivational quote, a positive affirmation. Yeah. Oh, dear Mischief agrees.

Lynn: I here's your dog saying that it's such pain. Hey, can I ask you a question before you tell me all this brainy stuff? Hey, did Neil give you that? Did Neil give you the,

Chesney: the brainy stuff?

Lynn: Yeah. Did he?

Chesney: Yeah, he did. I'm lit. I'm looking at Neil's, uh, brainy stuff in front of me. Yeah. I'm gonna read some of it or some of it,

Lynn: not all of it.

Chesney: I mean, I could read it all, but we could be here I

Lynn: A D D you're not A D D

Chesney: no, I'm not, but I believe Neil is,

Lynn: oh, do you believe Neil is? Like

Neil is.

Chesney: Yeah. So. He's laughing.

He's laughing.

Lynn: Oh my God. I dunno whether that's him laughing or whether he is just a panting as he goes to the bathroom. Right. Go.

Chesney: Well, first of all, um, well, what do you think about that? Uh, quote Lynn, before we go into the brain stuff.

Lynn: Oh my God. I love it. I really, I do love it because I feel like the pressure to be, um, better. All the time is a killer that's I had a discussion actually with a friend of mine, actually, you know, Miata who deals with money mm-hmm and also, and we were talking about, uh, she, she listeners, she deals with people who, um, want to sort out finances, right? Mischief's..

Chesney: I'm I'm gonna shut the door. Cause otherwise it's Mischiefs just gonna just butt on in. It take five seconds. Sorry guys.

Lynn: All right. Okay. No. Anyway, so back to the quote, right? Uh, was talking with my friend Miata who helps people with money. And I met her because she works with, uh, artists, creative people, helping them to not be afraid of money. And we got into this discussion about, um, how, uh, people get into debt.

And I said, well, you know, if, if we didn't have the idea of, we have to be better than somebody, then I bet you the whole debt issue would pretty much disappear. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Not all of it. Cuz a lot of it is that some people just don't earn money or can't earn money or have got like circumstances are really difficult.

But the thing of credit card debt, when people spend more than they can possibly afford is this desire to make something the best to make Christmas the best.

Chesney: Oh, I see what you mean.

Lynn: Yeah, yeah. That, it's this thing of that they and themselves are not good enough.

Chesney: Well, we all have that critical nature.

Don't we, that little, the chatty friend, you call it and it's the absolutely. It's all about that. We beat ourselves up. It's a, and then we give ourselves like an internal debrief don't we like, oh yeah. Of what happened. you know, like I could have done better. and I, I wish I'd have done more.

Lynn: Yeah. Why didn't I learn more when I was a kid?

Why am I not like, blah, blah, blah.

Chesney: Yeah. Why didn't I practice more at that particular thing or? Yeah. And if I'd have done this, then I would, then I'd be better. Yeah.

Lynn: But the, this thing of just do the best you can. That's all you can do. It lets people off the hook. It says what other people think of you isn't really your business. Mm. And that actually, um,

Chesney: puts the power back into your, into your hands doesn't it? Yeah.

Lynn: You're challenging yourself in life. You're not there for the approval of others. Yes. And, and actually, and also that does come back to money, which is a lot of people believe that, um, how successful they are or how worthy they are is, um, measurable by the number in their bank balance.

Chesney: Right. Isn't that true for so many people really isn't yeah.

Lynn: For all of us, you know, to a degree. Yeah. Apart from me, when I started, you know, was. Started getting chickens. And then that changes your life. You're like you have got chickens. I don't care.

Chesney: love your changing of nouns. Yeah. It just, just changed pounds or dollars to chickens, to chickens. Yeah. You're gonna be fine.

Lynn: And then you're like, oh my God, I'm 150 chickens short. like, okay. You are. Yeah. Oh no. Anyway, sorry. I interrupted. Tell me your things.

Chesney: Well, there's some variations on, on this quote too, which the lovely Neil has, uh, provided here.

Lynn: Oh, poor ne Neil. How many pairs of pants do you think he's on?

Chesney: Yeah, don't throw them at me. Um, keep your pants on mate,

Neil: I'm trying not to laugh. Sitting in a dark room.

Chesney: So, so here we, the little variations on the, on the, on the same theme with this quote, so do the best you can with what you can while you can. And success is inevitable. And I guess that means I success in your own terms. Isn't it?

Lynn: Really well, well, yeah.

What is success?

How do you measure it?

Chesney: Yeah, we've been through the, I mean, I, I now measure success, um, in happiness, in just how happy I am day to day, you know? I mean, it used to be, um, I guess like hit records or , you know, you know, how, how many radio plays I had stuff like that, but, or how much money you got.

Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. Um,

how many people fancy you? Yeah. that all you would always have success at that Chesney always.

Chesney: Well, I don't know if our listener fancies me, but I think, I think our listener fancies you.

Lynn: Really?

Chesney: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard that.

Lynn: I think our listener might feel a little, sorry for me. I do. And I also,

Chesney: I, well, because you have to hang out with me.

Lynn: no, no, it's because I've

my it's got you here. Yeah. Nobody's they won't feel sorry for me today. They'll feel sorry for Neil and yes. Laundry, right?

oh, geez. I suspect her listener may feel a bit sorry for me. And even though they're listening, they may wish that I would shut up sometimes and I would agree with them on that.

Chesney: Oh, I, I would never want you to shut up.

Lynn: Really?

Chesney: No, I absolutely. For, um, So, let, let me give you a couple more of these variations.

I think they're quite interesting actually. Um, uh, this is a good one. Do do your best when no one's looking and if you do that, then you can be successful at anything. Oh,

Lynn: Hey. You know, I have a variation of that, right? Yeah. Which is that when, you know, there are times in my life where I've I've felt and I do feel powerless, particularly the way that the world is, but the world can feel really overwhelming.

And uh, so you, you get that some days you get up and you're just like, oh man, I'm I feel like overwhelmed

Chesney: by all. Oh yeah. I had one of those mornings today. Actually. Are you really? Yeah.

Lynn: God, you hide it. Well well, do you know what I do on those days to distract myself is I try and do at least one, preferably two things, uh, good things for other people and not let the know..

Chesney: That's great.

Lynn: So that maybe if I am wondering about, uh, doing work or something, and I get a connection with someone, and I think God, you know, they would be really good connection for them. I'll like connect them both mm-hmm or I'll try and like, I'll take the neighbors some eggs or something like that.

Like just something to remind me that I do have some power and the way to do it is to do something good for someone else without expecting anything back.

Chesney: That is brilliant. Lynn. I'm gonna adopt that. I love that. Yeah. Yeah.

Lynn: It really helps. So honestly,

Chesney: yeah. I, I can, I can see that. And I think I probably do that naturally anyway.

Um, yeah. Cause, um, you know, like I had a nice, nice chat with my neighbor who was all upset, cuz there's a construction next to her house and you know, and I think she left me feeling a little better yeah. Than, than when she got to me, you know? Um, but she did, I, I call it like, cause she, she was just like moaning and, and you know, I, we call it in our house.

We call that holding the trash. So like, can you hold the trash for me? I just need to vent, you know, I just need to get it out. I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm here. Hold the trash for you.

Lynn: I expect a Neil's house at the moment, holding the trash means an entirely different thing. Do you know what I'm saying?

Chesney: I do. I do.

I do poor Karen

Lynn: So anyway, uh, lovely listener is time for us to go onto the meat rather than the potatoes. We vegetables here are, uh, going to make way for, uh, our guests,

Chesney: the steak,

Lynn: who I think. Is entering into the waiting room. Very minute.

Chesney: Very exciting.

Lynn: oh God. Hello? Hello? Oh, what way? We're good.

Chesney: It's gonna be a friendly fest.

Lynn: It totally is. We need, remember to try and do actual podcast stuff for our listeners.

Ooh, I

can hear my on echo.

Chesney: Oh, you've got headphones

Ross King: mate, because I've not got headphones in.

Chesney: We would love it. If you had headphones, you got headphones in.

I

Lynn: can do it on the look at you. You're devilishly attractive, man.

Ross King: hold on. You know, I'll do, let me just run and get other ones. I gonna put my little pods in, but

Lynn: Chesney has the pods, but I have the big Lionel Richies.

Ross King: We are the world

Chesney: dancing on a ceilling.

Lynn: All right, angel.

Ross King: There we are.

Chesney: Okay. Our guest today, lynn.

Lynn: I know. Do you know, can I have to tell you listener right? That, eh, normally Mark,

Ross King: I hope you're not gonna say what I think you're gonna say. that's all. I am going to say.

Chesney: You haven't been introduced yet.

Ross King: If it involves a test, then I'm

no.

Lynn: Oh no, no, no. Not, not at this, this point.

No. At this point, Mr. King. No. Um, what was I gonna say? No, normally, right Mark. Other half Mark doesn't really want involved in the podcast. He's like away and do your podcasty things. I've got bees to look after and stuff like that. We've got bees, right? Bees and chickens and worms, just so you know, that's what the pandemic did for

Ross King: us is the worms I was concerned about.

I, is that just a personal problem? No,

Lynn: no, no, not internal worms.

Ross King: Oh, right. Oh, I thought we were sharing very early. No, no,

Lynn: we haven't even introduced yet. Right, exactly. Um, but we're having that kind of podcast. Chesney it's the deconstructed podcast where we had, we didn't even introduce ourselves before I started chatting.

Chesney: I was like, we've all gone, horri wrong. Neil's Neil's got into background and we're like, what are we doing? What's happening?

Ross King: why are

Lynn: we doing what I was saying is normally Mark wants nothing to do with the podcast he's like away and go and talk and give me, you know, an out of peace. And then he heard that you were the guest and he.

I want to do it too. I haven't seen him in ages. I love him.

Ross King: love. Love you too, Mark.

Chesney: No, so let's introduce our fabulous guest listener. Our guest today is four time news, Emmy and multi award winning TV, star bestselling, novelist, film, and stage actor, TV presenter, an all round King of LA. So handsome. He outshines most of his celebrity mates apart from ?????? Ross King MBE.

Ross King: Oh my goodness. Sweet. Ah, that that's the best introduction I've ever had. Today, but no, that's that's listen,

Chesney: Rob Ross, I'll take that. I'll take that. Cuz you have been introduced quite a few times. I would presume in, in your life.

Ross King: I, I always remember funny enough, you know, when you introduce someone and I'm not gonna say who this is, but I was about to introduce a big star on a stage in London and it's only ever happened to me once in my whole life and I'd forgotten the person's name.

Chesney: Oh gosh.

Ross King: And so I said, I said the classic, ladies and gentlemen, will you welcome please. Someone who really does need no introduction and then come on. And after they came up to me and said that that's the lovely introduction I've ever had oh my God. Right. And that's the, that's the truth. And, and the other, the other one that my favorite is I was in Scotland and I said, as a kid, I was taught the bigger the star, the shorter of the introduction.

Lulu

Chesney: oh, Lulu's been involved in our podcast and this season a few times, hasn't she,

Lynn: you know, my mother used to accuse me of talking like Lulu, right. no, and I bet you've had this Ross King as well. Right.

Which is. I guess in like the eighties or something like that, Lulu would come on Parkinson, like these things.

And she would speak in a Scottish accent, but with an American twang In my house, that was the greatest offense. They're like, God,

Chesney: God,

Ross King: the funniest thing about Lulu. And, and actually, I mean, there sounds like clang drop him, but she has become a really good friend, but the first time I met her and I had to explain to her that I thought she hated me because the first thing, when I introduced it was a show called Pebble Mill and she came on and I said, I said, look, I just wanna ask you this.

And I've always wanted to ask you this when you got up in a cold morning and go and try and start your car, does it go WayHayYeaYea? And she gave me that look, you know, and it was a very Glasgow look of like, See you , I'm not happy.

Chesney: youre.

Lynn: When I, when I would go back to, uh, Scotland, after when I lived in London, my mother would accuse me of talking like Lulu. And then when she be like, who told that Lulu, have you ever been accused Ross King of talking like Lulu?

Ross King: No. I'll tell you the, the only thing that I was ever accused of was there was a, a guide, uh, a couple who became good friends of mine.

And they were at the house one night and they were talking about, and I worked on KTLA here in Los Angeles for about six years and they said, oh, you know, when you started at first, we couldn't understand a word you'd said. And I, I sort of have sort of prided myself in the fact that throughout my whole life.

And my dad sounded exactly the way that I sound. So my accent is very like my dad's boy from Glasgow. And so. I've always prided myself in the fact that no, one's had to say, sorry, what did you say? I didn't understand that. and he did this whole thing to, uh, my then girlfriend that, oh, we didn't understand them.

So we got out DVDs of me the very first time that I'd ever been on KTLA and like the last time, exactly the same. And I think sometimes there is a thing where people love to say, you know, especially again, you get it. If you go back home to Glasgow. Oh, you've changed Hollywood now. Aren't you you're Hollywood's to Hollywood.

Yeah. And it's, and it's weird that, that Charlie, who was my first wife, who's got a beautiful, kinda Mary Poppins accent. And we were here three weeks and she would say, are we going to a party on Saturday? I know. And I was like, wow, no. And the weirdest thing is now she's this incredibly successful wedding planner and event planner.

And she's even more like Mary Poppins than ever before. She realizes that, you know, it's a, it's a plus to have an accent. It.

Lynn: I was the lead at the, this, uh, play at the National Theater we were in. I know, right? Bow curtsy

Ross King: I'm throwing my pants at you as

Lynn: oh, you are. As long as

Chesney: there's a regular occurrence on this.

Lynn: We don't want Neil throwing

his pants in anybody, pants

Chesney: not with his tummy.. .

Lynn: As long as Neil I'll take anybody's parts, but not Neils.

Anyway, there was a part, um, in the play where it was kind of interactive and this guy in the audience shouted out, he went, I can't understand you. I can't understand you. Right. And I said, I turned and I said to him, cause I forgot that I was at the National and meant to not see anything. And I turned, I just said to them naturally, well, "I can understand you. So one of us must be stupid."

Right.

and

which is what I say when people can't understand me. And you know, what's remarkable is that even when they can't understand you, they seem to be able to understand that sentence. I don't really.

Ross King: Oh yeah. That's yeah.

Chesney: That's, that's some irony to that.

Lynn: Yeah. I think there is a thing about, um, you know, I don't know whether it's a, a Scottish thing or whatever, but there, there does seem to be a thing about Scottish people not being, uh, clear and in certain parts of Scotland.

It's true, right?

Ross King: Yeah.

Lynn: Oh yeah. But there is a prejudice. Sometimes you, sometimes there is remarkably though. well, not remarkably. I think it's cause you're all, you know, oozing charm and loveliness that you have like transcended all of what is expected for a, a, like a scottish when I met you, I think you were a DJ, uh, Radio Clyde were, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. And like you have, um, done amazing things and you are sort of Mr. Hollywood, the other thing that's not in the introduction and I don't know that everybody knows about you unless they know you is you're incredibly kind. Mm, and I can, you are incredible. So generous kind. Yes. Like Mark and I have a theme as well, or a little, her little thing, which is if Ross King doesn't like you , you're probably not likable

Ross King: I love the fact you cleaned that up.

Lynn: Yeah. It

Chesney: wasn't. It was a bit of BEEP is what it was. Yeah. Ross King. Doesn't like you, you must be a cBEEP. Yeah,

Lynn: no Ross King, says you're a bit there you that. Right. But it's true. When we came, like, whenever we see. Whenever we, when we arrived in LA and, uh, we'd go to parties at the Consulate or big fancy parties or whatever, you're always

Chesney: there, Ross be there.

Yeah. Yeah. And

Lynn: it's like, like this face where you're like, come on in,

Ross King: come in. Yeah, we exactly. You see I'm a waiter. That's the thing. I'm actually drink staff. Yes, exactly.

Lynn: No, you're totally not. It's like a soy drew

I remember actually after a particularly horrible gig, uh, um, this hotel that I was doing afterwards, you were like that.

Don't worry about it. They're all BEEP.

like, you're just totally, um,

Chesney: you've outed him now.

Lynn: Yeah. Well, bleep.

Don't worry about it.

Chesney: I think it exactly, I think it's because Ross, um, he just does his best and that's all he can do. Very go,

Ross King: oh my mother's expression. Right. As

Chesney: you know, listener, we ask our guests to give us a quote.

That means something to them or something in a way they live their life. Or, um, and so Ross, um, has given us this quote, which is just do your best. That's all you can do. So tell us a little bit about that, Ross. Why,

Ross King: why did you, so it's my mother. And she always said it to me. And the weirdest thing was, I think I got to, I'm gonna say probably like 22 or 23 before I realized what it really meant.

So, you know, you know, you're a kid in Glasgow get off to play football. Your mom would say, oh, just do your best. And that's all you can do. And, and I go, yeah, of course my, I, even as I'm doing it, I'm turning back to the door of the house. 66 whole house driving nights were turning back, going. Yeah, mom, and then getting out and going, well, of course, I'm gonna do my best.

Why would I not do my best? Right. And then I realized that to do your best, then once you've really done and you've done everything to do your best, there's nothing more you can do. So if it doesn't go well, it's funny, like you're talking there about, um, things not going well in is that if you do your best, there's nothing more you can do.

And so I think, especially when I came to America, if you go for an audition and you come out of it and you go. I did my best. Well, there is nothing else you can do. So if you didn't get chosen or again at football, if we lost, but I did my best. then that was it. So you could, you could be proud of yourself.

Be happy. You could be well, yeah, yeah. Or just be happy within yourself. That was it. Yeah. But it's all the things that it takes to make you do your best. So I think with the football thing, I just imagine on the day I would do my best, but if I hadn't been training or I hadn't, you know, been eating properly or, you know, sleeping, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, all the things that you Chuck in.

So again, it's like, if you're doing an interview, you know, or if you're doing a play or a musical or you're singing or you're warming up, or you're not warming, all the things that you can do to make you do your best. And once you realize that, and once you do it and you go, that's it. I can't do any better than that.

And also if you don't get part here or, you know, in any addition, well, you go, I can't do anymore. I've done my best. And that's it. And I think it's, it's a little bit like a Shakespearean, you know, to the, uh, was it Shakespeare or was it Rabbie Burns to thy own self be true?

Lynn: It takes away a lot of shame's what it does.

Ross King: Perfect. Yeah.

Lynn: Do you know, this is totally off topic and I'm sorry for doing it, but except it's not off topic, which is when you were talking about football there mm-hmm, playing football. Mm-hmm cause obviously I, I know how much you love football, but I remember the story that you told me, which is you played football with Bob Marley, didn't you?

Chesney: Oh, that's right when you were a kid. I remember that story.

Ross King: Yeah. Yeah, I did. Um, so I was a kid at local radio Radio Clyde in Glasgow, and someone said, um, Bob Marley was in town. I went to the concert, which was unbelievable. Oh wow. I disgraced myself. I think I would've been, I would've been 15 or 16. Yeah.

Probably 16 working at Radio Clyde as a Saturday boy, and then working on the sports show. And then, um, they said, um, go up and interview Bob. So the night before I'd been to the concert, came out, disgraced myself, cuz I thought it was really, it was the first concert I'd ever been to. So the, the, the wonderful old Glasgow, Apollo and I come out, the whole place is BA BA, BA, BA, BA, BA BA, bam, bam.

Whole place is rocking and I came out and I go

what's that smell?

and I, without a word of a lie, Lynn I said, is that petula oil

disgraced myself, next day. Go, go up and see if you get an interview with Bob, Molly, he was staying at the Beacons Hotel. Do you remember the Beacons Hotel Lynn up? It was up on like Park Circus up that, oh God. Yeah. That nice place. That posh so I get up there and I've got my tape machine over my shoulder got microphone 16, 16.

Oh my God. So I'm getting up there and I've got along this street and I've got all right. Okay. Here it is. And then I walk along and then as I'm walking along there, guys in the street playing football and this ball rolled towards me. So having been a wee bit of a footballer, I sort of flicked it up and then kicked it back to them.

And as I kicked it back to them, I looked up, it was Bob Marley.

Lynn: No way

Ross King: that's it was Bob Marley no. Wow. Bob then said, so I joined in the, we kick about in the street inland with Bob Mar threw your take machine away. Like right's exactly. Who cares about the interview. Let's uh, let's do that. So, yeah. Yeah. And then then very quickly on a, on a footballing one, this is, and again, we, we will translate for you Chesney there was a game.

So I'm trying to be a, a footballer and to play for a Partick Thistle. Partick Thistle Nil, give them the full title in the old gag. And, um, and I'm playing in this game. and there's only a few hundred people there. It's a horrible wet night in Glasgow. Um, you can imagine up Mary Hill rains teaming down horrendous. Last minute we get a penalty.

I go, Billy, big bullocks. I'll take the penalty, give the ball to me, give the ball to me. I'm thinking this is it. I'm gonna smash it in this is it perfect. I put the ball down and as I run up, I slip and I, but as I slip I'm so Billy big bullocks that I know that what I can do is I can knock it that way.

Cuz the goalkeeper sees me slipping. I'm gonna hit it that way. So as I slip, I go bang and hit the ball that way in my head, it went bang and the ball went that way. The ball rolled slowly. Oh my God. So slowly that nobody moved and the goalkeeper can look down and almost apologetically picked the ball up and every, there was this silence and in this absolute silence and about whatever, three, 400 people watching out of the crowd who shouted.

Hoar Rossy. I could have hit it harder with a semi

Chesney: Oh, I love it.

Ross King: So we don't, we don't need to explain a semi to you Chesney.

Chesney: No, no, I, I think I get that one. Yeah.

Ross King: Okay. Right.

But do, but do you know the let's let's just, well, we can speak full and frankly here. Yes. Do you know what the Scottish word is for a full erection? Do you know the stages? Do you know the three stages?

Do you know the three stages? Three stages of erections? Yes. For, for, in Scotland? Yeah. The first one is it's a rubbery then it becomes a semi and then it becomes a stonner

Lynn: oh, I forgot about stonners, I mean, not that I ever knew.

Chesney: You also met Charlie Chaplin when you were young

Ross King: didn't oh God. Yeah. Um,

Lynn: do you think that meeting people like that when you were young has meant that, um, you're able to interview celebrities and talk to celebrities without it being like, oh my God. Wow.

Ross King: That's such a brilliant question, which I have never, ever, ever been asked before, have, you know, uh, never, and that's a really good, yeah.

And it's funny that I think about it. There's weird things in my life that I never really equated to what I do now. And it was funny, you know, when people say, you know, when you're a kid, what do you want to do? So all I wanted to do was, was play football, but I loved singing and I loved sort of, you know, larking around and doing impressions of the teachers and all that sort of stuff.

Mm-hmm and I remember that football seemed. A way ahead, especially for mom and dad. Cause I just came from a council house in Glasgow. So mom and dad were very much like, yeah, the football's going well. And then you could be a PE teacher. So it could be a PE teacher, right. And a part-time footballer, you know, semiprofessional.

And that seemed like a good way to go. And then I remember cuz I'd sing at weddings and things like that. And remember saying to dad, I wanna be in, I think I want to be in show business so dad said without word of like dad said, we don't know cocoa decline we dunno how we dunno how to go about, you know, we will support you.

We we're happy for you, but we just don't know which way to go. So anyway, weird thing is looking back. So my dad was in the salvation army and he. He would always be on stage at the salvation, you know, on the platform. And he would, he would do jokes if he was doing like a sermon, but he'd put jokes in there, like religious jokes that were really funny.

Yeah. And he would, and I, I thought he did that. And then Uncle Walter and Uncle Norman, Uncle Bill were all like music hall DJs as well. Wow. And we'd do the, the dances, you know, at the Barrowland and things like that. So it was really weird that all the, you were surrounded by it. I was surrounded by it.

My mom played the piano. You know, people come to the house, you know, everyone again, Lynn knows as well. And I, I dunno if it, well, Ches look at the house that you grew up in.

Chesney: Well, I was gonna say it was very similar kind of thing. I was surrounded by it. So it wasn't weird for me. When fame came along, it was like, oh yeah, it's normal.

Ross King: You've got all these people and you had all these people there. So it was natural to get up. And in and in Glasgow, it was always do your party piece. Wasn't it. If you went to any kind of party was like, come on, get up, come on, come on. And I'd be singing Long Haired Lover From Liverpool in my little purple cord suit.

Cause that was Donny's favorite. Not Jimmy's favorite color, but it was Donny's. Um, so yeah, so it was really weird that later in life then I went, oh, that was it. And because. mom playing the piano and dad, dad was very, uh, musical as well. Played the euphonium, uh, played all lots of brass instruments. Sadly, none of it got passed on to me.

as you, as you know, Ches the musical talent then deserted me. But it was so interesting that all these things all come together. And I think Johnny Carson, who was the most amazing chat show host here always said, whatever skills you learn, or even it's like, whatever joke you hear and you make a note of it.

Um, it, it goes in and it's really funny. And it even like the other day, I'd heard a joke and I thought that's quite good. I'm going to change that. And, and you, you lock it in. And then just last night we were talking about, um, I said, like, I think I've got, I'm getting a form of Scottish dimensia. Which is I'm forgetting everything except the grudges ,

it's great.

Lynn: I have that.

Ross King: So isn't it. But you know, I'd heard that, you know, joke like a couple of days ago and then immediate. And it was actually, somebody said it about Irish person. I went, well, actually it works for Scottish people, you know, that whole thing. And it's weird musical ago. We're a little sponge user process of osmosis.

So there we are. But I

Chesney: guess it's, you know, what Lynn was saying is true. If you, if you'd met Charlie Chaplin and Bob Marley, by the time you were 15, 16 years old, , you know, when, when you came to doing, you know, the job that you do now, where you interviewed Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and Angelina Joey's just like

Ross King: so downhill, isn't it?

Lynn: Maybe that moment as well of your mom going hello, Charlie, right? Hello Charlie? Yeah. Hello Charlie. She's a good point, Lynn. Yeah. Um, she showed you like, not the, there's a lovely thing about, um, I guess it's in, in Britishness, but certainly in Scottishness. Which is the Scottish people tend to and can completely ignore the obvious in order to have a decent chat.

Do you know what I mean? OK. Oh yes. I know they're famous, but really is this bus coming in time? Do you know about it? Right? Don't they'll go straight to it.

Ross King: It's so true. I, I just say, just pick it up in that the, on my, my Twitter, in my instant handle is, uh, the RO at the Ross King and it's not somebody said, oh, The Ross king.

And I said, no, it's At The Ross King because I was in a, a lift in Glasgow years ago. And I got in and there was an older couple getting and they turned them. oh, and gimme a knowing nod. And so I have this terrible thing and people, somebody says, I know you from somewhere. And I always say, do you watch a lot of porn?

that's that's

Chesney: fun. I always say, oh, maybe we went to school together.

Ross King: oh, that's made me another bad story in a second. Um, but, um, so then the woman went watch a little porn. Might have to use that one. It's good. Recognize me without the tashe. Yeah. on the soft, the soft sax and a small part in it. And, um, she thanks.

Excuse me. And, um, so this woman, then she went to her husband. She went, look, it's The Ross King, the Ross King. And I, and I was laughing. Exactly. Yeah. I it's The Ross King. And I said, it's okay. I'm not on the television. I said, I can hear you and I can speak to you. And he went. I saw it as, as The Ross King and they kept in and lived.

They continued with this conversation as if I wasn't there, but refer to me as The Ross King, The Ross king. So that was very quickly on your, on your, the, the school thing. Yeah. In, in Hyndland uh, is a little, uh, lovely little, uh, restaurant bar place. And I was there. This is probably about three years ago and I'm standing there and this woman, elderly woman crossed the bar looks across at me and she kind of gave me that nod.

And I was like, yep. And then she started walking towards me and she went. Ross King. And I went again guilty to watch a lot of porn, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she went now Victoria Drive Secondary. And that was the school that I went to. Oh, with, with, with the most UN unfortunate initials. Imagine gonna school Victoria Drive.

You do not want to have those initials on your blazer, but I did editors. So, so I said, oh, I said, oh miss, uh, miss, oh, what was it? You taught again? And she said, I was in your class.

Lynn: Ah, oh my God. No. Oh my God.

Chesney: That's worse than saying when's the baby due?

Ross King: Oh yeah. There's no, there's no comeback. There is no come.

No from that, there's nothing. I'm just like dig, dig,

dig, dig.

Chesney: I'll be off then, yeah,

Ross King: exactly. Like coach taxi. Yeah. Get my coat.

Chesney: Taxi for King. Yeah.

Lynn: The worst I ever did with that was that now I keep my hands to myself. Just so you know, I know that somebody had a hair on their face.

Chesney: Oh, no you went to wipe it off.

Lynn: Well, I went to pull it off and then it went with their skin, their face . And so then I was like, oh goodness, too. Oh, no, no, but there's, there's actually a worse part to it. Right. Cause I said to Mark and he thought that was hilarious. And related that story, he would use it as one of his stories about like how funny

Chesney: and oh, so it carried on like

Oh

Lynn: No, he told it. To the person. Good?

Chesney: Yes. Oh, for God's sake. Yes. Yes. Oh, that's good. I have a good one. When my sister Keely was very little, she was in the kitchen with my mum and my mum's friend, and she was probably like six years old. So she's, she's going up to this woman. She's kind of like looking over one side of her, her, and then, then going around the other side of her like that.

And, and, and, uh, the woman was like, what are you, what are you do? What are you looking at? Keely? She said, my mommy said you had two faces.

Ross King: that's brilliant.

Chesney: Where do you go from there? So

Lynn: Chesney as you know, does the music Neil? Oh yes. When he's not dealing with the adventure nevers

Chesney: dealing with stomach plant, right? The Roger kiters. Yeah. Roger.

Lynn: Roger. Kiters. He does

Chesney: look at,

Ross King: look at that touching cloth he does

Lynn: the keeping everything together.

Right. But I do story, I do a little bit story in this and what it is is I found out, I discovered this thing through years of being, I don't know me that people tell stories or they have stories running in their head that they think everybody can hear, but they, but nobody can. Oh. And uh, if you ask people to tell you a little story, then you can.

right. You can hear it. Are you up for a little ex experiment?

Ross King: I love it. I love the thought this. All

Lynn: right. So what I'm gonna do is I've got my timer, right? I've got you timer there. Yes. Oh yes. Uhhuh. And I'm gonna ask you to tell me a story and I'm gonna write stuff down and then after it, I'm gonna tell you what I hear.

Ross King: Okay. Right. All right. And, and so, and do I get any clue? Do I get any well, I'm you what the story is? Oh, right. Oh God. Yeah. I just gonna say,

Chesney: not just any old story,

Ross King: I was gonna like a Max Bygraves and there's another one for the kids. that's a fun tell, I wanna tell you a story. I

Lynn: would like you to tell me the story of your name.

Are you ready?

Ross King: Yes. Cool. Okay. Uh, I started life. My full name is Derek Ross King, and I never liked Derek. There's a lot of D's in the family. My dad's David then there's another David. Then there's a Douglas. And when I was at primary school, I thought I'm gonna be called Ross because I realized that people like Paul McCartney, James Paul McCartney.

So you could use your middle name. And I sat and, you know, when they used to just call out the school register, okay. And then they go Derek King and I sat there and the teacher level, and eventually she came out and she looked down and she went Derek King. And I said, uh, my name's not Derek, my name's Ross.

And she basically said, I remember she took like the, the desk and she went, don't be ridiculous. Your name's Derek King and banged the desk, you know, to put the desk on and then slam it back down again. You, ah, nearly got my fingers Miss and um, so that was it. So that was it. And then I'd always, and a couple of friends had called me Ross.

And then when I was in secondary school and I went to hospital radio, which is where I started DJing and things like that. I said, uh, I was going, I wanted to be always known as Ross and that was it. And that was when my, I suppose it kind of became official, but the weirdest thing is in later life, everyone, my whole family calls me Ross.

Um, although of course you'll get somebody who's at school. I, the member who is Derek, you better that sometimes . And then my aunt Maureen refuses to call me Ross, but mom and dad would be really funny. So if you were around at the house, they would say, oh yeah, Ney Ross was telling me that, blah, blah, blah, blah, Derek, can you put the kettle on so so there's a little bit of that, but, uh, but no, I don't, there's nobody, now that actually.

Calls me Derek. No, that, it's funny that I'm not ashamed of it at all, but it's funny, Derek. I never really liked the name. And then I also thought of, uh, Dirk Bogart is actually Derek Bogart and Dirk is the kind of Gaelic version of Derek. So Dirk but then Dirk King sounds like you're doing something, doesn't it.

Have you been Durking probably there. We're oh wow.

Lynn: There we are. I think Neil has been Durking continually for the,

Chesney: whatever. I think he Ising in, he under, still is. Although we can't see him. He's definitely Durking behind

Ross King: that case. It is. He, my underpants are fully Dirked

Chesney: so your

Lynn: name yes. Is how you see yourself. right. Oh yeah. It's how you see it. Oh, right.

Ross King: Uhhuh.

Lynn: Right? No, it's all lovely. Even there's nothing bad

Ross King: in it. Right. This is brilliant. It's like having your tea leaves read or something, it's

Lynn: kinda like, yeah. Except it's not because what it's to do with is if you think of all the words in the world that you can use and all the stories that you've got, and then you're asked to tell a story of about something and this is what you say.

Mm. And that really is what your perspective is. It's fascinating. Oh, right, right. Mm-hmm anyway, your thing is yes. Um, from very early on, you just were like, I'm not staying here. Mm. I'm not meant to be here. I'm not staying here. Um, all these people are lovely, but I'm not one of them. And I like them all and everything, but I can't be.

Right. Brilliant. And that, uh, the thing that gets you through, which is amazing. and I think I knew this anyway, but it's funny, which is you are resilient beyond like you, if you were a, we stick of rock and you cut you open, there'd be resilient in there, which is you just go. Aha. I know, I know. I know that you think I'm a prick.

That's fine. I'm just getting on with stuff though. Is that OK? just getting on me. Like, that's like totally your thing of going. I, you, you are to the unknown self be true, actually. You're like, I know who am and I don't mind taking a whole load of shit about it because I know that I can't stay here. I have to be there.

I'm that guy. Mm-hmm and what's lovely about your also you can disagree with this if you think I'm talking

rubbish.

Ross King: No, no, it's really interesting.

Lynn: And what's fascinating about it is that your parents, eh, acknowledge it. They're like they almost see it as like two different things. Where they're like, well, he is always gonna be our Derek mm-hmm he needs to be, uh, this thing that he needs to be.

Right. It's monster . Yeah, no, I don't think it's a monster. I think it's a, you had a picture really early on of how things were going to be, and then you followed it. Like, uh, I think that if it, yeah, um, people would call it a passion in a way, right? Like when people go, I'm gonna be an artist or I'm gonna be a thing you, your one was like, I don't really belong here.

I think I need to be somewhere else. And that

was it.

Ross King: That's so true.

Lynn: Does that make sense?

Ross King: It's perfect sense. It's it's like a perfect reading. Yeah. It's brilliant. No, seriously. It's that is like quite astounding. That's why you can tell I've suddenly gone. Gonna be bit quiet. Yes.

Lynn: Wow. Well, let's we come and do a session, right?

We'll do our session.

Ross King: I love it. It's amazing. I love that, Lynn. That's brilliant.

Lynn: What's lovely about it in it, as well as the, um, sometimes when people's reads, you can see that, or you can hear stuff that is about, um, sorrow or, uh, you know, resentment mm-hmm and in yours. Yeah. The thing with your mother and your father going ha blah, blah, blah, Derek put the kettle on.

Is this brilliant thing about acceptance? Mm-hmm I expect that your parents had to be quite resilient as well, which is yes and no, you know, his name is Derek, but if he wants to call himself Ross, what can we do?

Ross King: I think there was only one time that they said what's wrong with Derek or something. Yeah. And then, but also what was lovely, cuz my mom, uh, his maiden name was Ross, so it was always lovely. So we've also with all the family. So when we get all the, the clan together, there's the Rosses and the Kings. So it's quite nice.

Lynn: Oh, that's lovely sort thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Its a tribute to both things. Mm-hmm but I also, I think it makes sense to me why your mom would say just do your best. That's all that you can do because it's about accepting you for who you are. Right. We would go, look, I know I know you on this Ross thing, your dad, and I'm really entirely convinced what it's about, but if you need to be, you just go do your best and we will accept you whatever it's that's right.

Chesney: Yeah. You

be who you want to be. I guess that's your acceptance. It's lovely.

That's all you want from your parents. And I think that's what you have to do. It is as a parent, you've got to just kind of, you know, let, let your sh your children decide what they want in life and, and just support them. And, and, uh, you know, if they have a passion, uh, you know, or, or something that they love, then.

You encourage them to go in that direction. Right? I mean, I know that's what I do as a parent. Yeah,

Ross King: no, that's so lovely. Um, can I just go back to Ches when you were talking about childhood and all the rest of it, just drop a few of the names that dropped by your house. I just wanna know like, oh, this is, this is Uncle Cliff.

Well, yeah, that was funny. He is Aunty Cilla

Chesney: yes, that was exactly the kind of names. Well, you know, my dad's mates were all people that he would be touring with. So mm-hmm, , you know, like he, he, the people that would come regularly with people like, um, Jerry Marsden, For instance was a good mate of my dad's.

Um, all of The Searchers all of Dave D Doy, Bey, Mick and Titch were. Yeah. Yeah. They'd all be uncle Dave, uncle Doy, you know? Um, I mean, gosh, the Marmalade uh, wow. Herman's Hermits. Uh, oh, it's

Ross King: a Nu.

Chesney: Yeah, exactly. Um, I mean all of those kind of, uh, any kind of sixties band of the time, British sixties band at the time.

Yeah. They would've called by, but they also knew like that they'd hang out with like Radio One DJs, like, like Mike Reed and Paul Burnett, you know, people like that. They were always around. So,

Ross King: yeah. That's brilliant because have you talked about how your mom was the on The Golden Shot?

Chesney: Not on the podcast. I haven't

Ross King: known did you? No, there we are. Dear listener, The Golden Shot. A great show. Yeah.

Lynn: It was a huge show on the U UK, just in case our listener is from America from earlier or something, or our was a huge show in the huge. Seventies,

Chesney: maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Seventies. Yeah. Seven late. Yeah. Mid to, to late seventies.

She was one of the Golden Girls on The Golden Shot with Bob Monkhouse was the, was the presenter. And she speaks incredibly highly of Bob. Um, I guess he's another one that we'd, you know, call by the house that, uh, you know, she , she still, uh, has a lot of love for, for Bob Monkhouse and said he was a really lovely guy.

And, and also just, you know, one of the funniest men ever in you,

Ross King: he, he was brilliant. Bob Monkhouse wrote material for me to do standup. Oh, that really unbeliev. And I've got the, I've got upstairs and the envelope that he sent with his stuff. Oh gosh. And he, because Bob was an amazing artist, you probably know.

Brilliant cartoonist mm-hmm. And on the, and on the, the, the envelope is like a picture of me and then a little like a self-portrait of him and then, and its, wee, wee Bobby Monkhouse because he, he worked with people like, um, Jack Milroy and Mary Lee who? Scotty showbiz. Legends. Yeah. And they would call him, wee Bobby Monkhouse

Chesney: that's so that's lovely.

Jack Milroy was, he was a comedian wasn't he? He was great.

Ross King: He was indeed Francie and Josie.

Lynn: See, I wonder if you are able to, the reason you're so good at dealing with people who have sort of a big public persona is cause they've like, what you see in them is they're inner Derek right? think you go, all right.

Well, you know, I know everybody knows you is lowest bit. This is like what? Me and you. We're talking about our inner Derek,

Ross King: right? In a, in a Dell boy.

Lynn: Yeah. Because what you do get from people get the, the core of where they come from of who they are. It's it's fascinating to watch what you do. And you are like your mother in that sense of going hello, Charlie.

it's like, oh, okay. Yay.

Chesney: So we have a little segment here on our lovely podcast where we ask our guests to provide us with, uh, a song that, uh, has some kind of emotional connection. Uh, some, you know, could be happy or sad mm-hmm or take them back or whatever. Um, so, oh, so you gave me a few. Um, yes, and I, I went for a Daydream Believer.

Oh, ah, yeah, which I thought was very, you actually Ross. Really?

Ross King: Yes, very much a indeed believer. I, I have

Chesney: to say I went down the, uh, the monkey's rabbit hole with that one as well. It was the video is so amazing. Anyone that hasn't seen the video for Daydream Believer or hasn't seen it for a while. Just go look at it on YouTube.

It is worth it just, uh, for Dave Jones' dance moves. Oh really?

Ross King: Absolutely. And, and he's because he, he always said that Justin Bieber stole, you know, when he did the, yeah. If people could see what we're doing at the moment, but Justin Bieber stole that move. Oh, it's a couple of bit, that's so funny because I, I was on the plane last week and I went down The Monkeys rabbit hole.

I think there's a TV show called down the YouTube rabbit hole. Yeah. Oh. And, and into these things and I went back and then I would find, and then we, when they had a comeback tour as well. Yeah. When they brought a song that was there and this is now, and, and then I'm figuring out who fell out with who and all the rest of it.

And then there was an eighties thing and Dave Jones, looked... Even better than he did, you know, than when he started out in the sixties. It's just a fascinating story. Yeah. Yeah.

Chesney: Fantastic. I, I just, you can tell to me the video to that record. I mean, when did that come out? 67, 68, something like that, something like that.

Yeah. I mean, it could have been made now, you know, it's just, it's just four young guys mucking about having fun, you know, punching each other in the arm, you know what I mean? Just trying to crack each other up. Uh, yeah. And it just, I mean, I know the sets were very sixties and everything, but like it could have been made now couldn't it?

It was just, yeah. And what a, what a song, what a record. Amazing. So, uh, I take that song. Mm-hmm that means something to you. And, uh, I. Uh, an acoustic version for our guests in the studio. So beautiful. So Ross King, just for you, this is my version of Daydream Believer.

Oh,

Lynn: i could wings

Chesney: of the Bluebird. She sing the six o'clock

Lynn: long would never

Chesney: ring, but it rings.

And I wipe to sleep

Lynn: my eyes,

Chesney: my shaving raises

Lynn: and

Chesney: oh,

Lynn: Of me

Chesney: as a white eye on his honesty. Now, you

Lynn: know how happy I can

Chesney: be? Woo. How good time start. And then with that dollar want spend, but how much baby you really need

and home queen

and, uh,

It you, uh, say dream and homecoming queen

cheer dream. Oh, what

dream? And, uh, homecoming queen. Beautiful. You excited.

Ross King: Wow, Ches, that, that is just perfect for your voice isn't it? Well, I was, you know, beautiful. And your voice is perfect for that song. Just beautiful.

Chesney: It's one of those songs that, you know, it's it's I felt like it, it wasn't written. It just, was it just, it just, ah, you know what I mean?

It's one of those songs. It just is part of culture. It's like a, yeah. You know, it's like listening to like Beatles songs, you know, it's just, they, they weren't written, they were just breezed into life.

Ross King: Oh, that's a beautiful way to put it. And when I, when I hear you sing it like that, I realize how I butcher it when I do it in my act

oh,

I

want, I wanna ask you one thing because you you're a fabulous songwriter as well. Well, thank you. So in the, the, when you were in that song, I think I've been singing the wrong lyrics, cuz because, cause our good times started, then I thought it was good time started then without dollar wanting to spend and you saying, and our good times.

Start and end start and start and end. Yes. Which I think is nicer. So maybe you are right and I've been wrong. Oh. And I always think it's really fun. There's some, some songs that everyone sings the wrong lyrics. Oh God. My, my favorite would see I'm gonna is the little test for you, right? Barbara Streisand song.

Mm-hmm right. Memories. What's the next line? Like the corners, like corners of my mind. Yeah, exactly. No, the actual lyric is memory and it's so beautiful. Memories. Light the corners of my mind

Chesney: way. No, that's so much

Ross King: better. And it's, isn't that beautiful. Yeah. Memories light. Oh, that corners that

Chesney: just made that whole song

Ross King: for me.

There are doesn't it. And so you think poor Marvin Hamish, everyone is memories like the corners and is, it is so weird. And you know, I was talking to someone chairs knows this. Well, I am. Fascinated by songwriters. I have such a huge admiration for them. And I, I wanna find out, you know, songs that they've written, why, and then you take someone like Barry Mank, who obviously is not only a brilliant songwriter, but also just the most incredible man for production.

Yeah. Arrangements, arrange arrangements, just amazing stuff. Um, but he would take songs obviously like Mandy, which he didn't write, which was originally called Brandy. Yes. For a dog and yeah. And then so certainly to that, and then a brilliant Gerard Kenny song, I made it through J Kenny song was, I made it through the pain and Barry changed it till I made it through the rain, the rain.

Yeah. And it's funny you think, but you would think from a songwriting point of view, paying so much more emo emotive, but then you think I made it through the rain. It's suddenly more romantic. Yeah. Pictures.

Chesney: It's exactly.

Ross King: So that's why I just.

Chesney: Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. It's it's very, have you ever seen the, uh, Peter Kay um, stand up where he does the, he does a whole bit on getting words wrong.

Yes. in his songs. in popular songs, but I won't go into it cause you never do it justice, but listener, if you have five minutes, you've got to, you've got two YouTube things to look at The Monkeys. and you've gotta go check out Peter Kay getting the words wrong in

Ross King: popular songs. Yeah. Charlie, Charlie. My, my, my first wife used to think that hot chocolates saying I believe in mirror balls.

I believe in mirror-balls

Chesney: Wells. Yeah. She's a wedding planner. She,

Lynn: hey, I've got a question for you. This is my last question for. well, I say it's my last question, but it may not. We'll see. Yeah. Cuz you know how chatty I am. I start question then I've got another one and then I don't know what to do. Um, what would you say to somebody who is a Derek living in a Ross's body right now?

And what advice would

Ross King: you give them? I always think it's one word, which is tenacious. Mm, you know, tenacity, tenacious, just be tenacious. And I think that, that, you know, probably the same for you, Lynn as well, where, where we came from, uh, in Scotland, there's there is, we've often talked about these things, which is the tall poppy syndrome and it's only Britain and Australia.

I think that have the tall poppy syndrome, which build people up and chop them down. But I think we've got a certain tenacity. Yeah. And I think it's there and I think it's in most people and I dunno whether or not it's just because of where we, where we came from. And maybe that gets a wee bit too, sort of parochial, you know, who's likers and all that sort of stuff.

But there definitely is something that we've, I think it's within most people and I don't think everyone knows that it's there. And sometimes it needs to be kinda like, you know, like someone needs to reach down your throat and pull it out of you and go, come on, you can. And that's it, it's there and, and don't be, don't be ashamed of it and don't, you know, go for it, really go for it.

And I think that's one thing, you know, that, you know, again, because we're all fortunate enough to, to, to live here in America is that America's definitely got, that can do attitude and that absolutely go for it. As opposed to, you know, sometimes where we came from, you get the, ah, don't be stupid. What you mean?

You're gonna write stupid boy. , you know what you mean? You're gonna call yourself Ross. Don't be stupid.

Lynn: do you know earlier when I talked about, when I said that, that, that you're incredibly kind. That actually is what I mean, because that's how every, you can tell when someone's new to LA. And at these parties, cuz you'll always find them with you

Ross King: and

Chesney: you do it yeah.

Lynn: And you would come on you're so can do it. You can do it like cuz that's one of the things Chas and I talked about, about you that we both have in common with you, which has the amount of encouragement that you have given us. Mm-hmm since we arrived is kind of extraordinary. Yeah. But that's and, and that's, it's like let's you got your parties and you're like, oh, that'll be somebody new.

And the new person, the new person will go, oh, keeping up going like that. That's Ross King . You're like, oh, and then you're all like, oh, come on. It's fine. And you know, they're an BEEP don't let them bother you. They're all keep moving

Chesney: exactly.

Ross King: Coming of a cup with tea, discuss .

Lynn: I think that's great. Ross, can you have been adorable as guest, but as we knew you would be, can I just tell you.

You were predictably adorable?

Ross King: Wouldn't that? well, you throw your pants at me. I like, I love when I hear the highlights of these shows and it's like, I'm gonna throw my pants at.

Chesney: So Ross thank you, Ross

thank

Ross King: you everyone. Neil.

Good luck with the cork,

Lynn: do you know the thing with Ross King is I feel like I could talk to him forever. It's one of the things that I, I mean, I do hugely respect him hugely. Yeah. Um, uh, and especially with that resilience

Chesney: thing. Yeah. I mean, I, I can relate to that. The resilience thing I hope, and I can see it in him as well, but he's also incredibly brave.

He's like, he's got no inhibitions and you know, that, that is an amazing quality, you know, he, he'd never done standup and he went, he went and just. Uh, a set at the, uh, Laugh Factory down in, on the Sunset. Wow. He just did, he didn't tell anyone. He just, just of his friends, he just went and did it, you know? Yeah.

And I, I, love that side to him, you know? He's and that's where that tenacity comes in. Isn't it? I mean, he obviously, uh, he just goes for it. I think he's got

Lynn: a thing in him, which is that, uh, life is not rehearsal. It's like, this is what it is. Yeah. You've gotta go for, and so he just does it. One of the things I love about him is that if he's a guy that you have a conversation with, and then you can pick up the conversation with exactly the same tool in the same way, like after months or even years out like him for.

Pre haven't seen him since before the pandemic. Oh, wow. And then I'm like, oh, Hey,

Chesney: I know. Yeah. He's definitely one of those guys, but he's also an incredibly good company. Isn't he? Yeah. You know, he's, he really is. He's a, he's a funny guy. Always makes you laugh. He's he's got great jokes and, and, and great anecdotes.

And obviously, you know, interesting people that he, he he's known over the years and, and his life is, uh, you know, it's, it's quite something, when you look back on it, it's, uh, you know, he's done a lot of stuff. Yeah.

Lynn: Yeah. So I think this episode, if it was to have a title, the title would be just do your best.

That's all that you can do. Do you think that's what it is? Or tenacity?

Chesney: Tenacity. I was gonna say maybe

Lynn: tenacity.

Chesney: Maybe Derek's tenacity

Lynn: or you could do it like the tenacity of Derek, which would make it sound like it was one of those, eh, kind of romantic novels written by that woman that did all the twilights, right?

oh, the tenacity of Derek of Derek. Yeah. He's like a lovable vampire. Who's trying to fight off an evil Werewolf in order to,

Chesney: and there's a love story in there. I know it

Lynn: there, right? Yeah. With Lynn and Chesney who are his, uh, his team of happy vampires, right?

Chesney: Oh, geez. I love it. Well, that was a great episode.

I enjoyed it. I'm sure you.

Lynn: Yeah, I did. And I hope you did well, Neil may not have enjoyed it very much. Neil. How did, did you enjoy that episode? Enjoy it. It

Neil: was lovely to sit back and just listen to you. Be fabulous.

So, ah, I enjoyed it back very much.

Lynn: Like you were sitting back anywhere

Chesney: you, you can go back to bed now it's a,

Lynn: some rest and some fluids walk into a dark room.

Anyway, listener. We very much hope that you've enjoyed it. Whether you've got a rocky bottom or not um, so until, uh, next time I've been Ferguson,

Neil: I've been very unwell

Chesney: and I've been Hawkes.

Lynn: See you. Bye guys. You've been listening to

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Lynn: Neil Harrington and Chesney Hawkes.

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